From orion.oac.uci.edu!network.ucsd.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pitt.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!minerva!metlay Thu Mar 19 18:19:15 PST 1992 Article: 31345 of rec.music.synth Path: orion.oac.uci.edu!network.ucsd.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pitt.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!minerva!metlay From: metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay) Newsgroups: rec.music.synth Subject: Re: Keyboard/computer stands Message-ID: <203566@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 17 Mar 92 21:05:07 GMT References: <1992Mar17.062934.15689@cco.caltech.edu> Sender: news@unix.cis.pitt.edu Distribution: usa Organization: Atomic City Lines: 26 In article storrs@milton.u.washington.edu (Storrs Albertson) writes: >bruno@bek-mc.caltech.edu (Bruno Olshausen) writes: >>some computer equipment. At the moment I am using a two tier, A-frame >>stand (Ultimate Support), but since the KX-88 is so heavy the stand >>shakes alot when I play. >Gee, I asked this same question last year and the concensus >was "go with Ultimate"... I'd be curious what other >"solutions" to this problem you get. I have an A-80 >controller (also weighted).. it wiggles, but not excessively. The problem is not with the stand's construction materials but with the design and its implementation. Meaning you don't need a new stand, Bruno, you just need to reconfigure the one you have a bit. Right now I assume you have a tier with two short support bars holding up the KX-88 so its center (from front to back) is approximately over the tier. What you want to do instead is to put another tier on the BACK of the A-frame, at the same height as the one you're using now. Then put a pair of long support bars across the two, with a tier clamp at one end and some nonslip pads at the other. This works best with REALLY big synths (like the T8), but should be okay for 88-key controllers too. -- metlay | "Your ferret isn't as smart as I thought." | "Why do you say that?" metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu | "He moves his lips when he reads!" From orion.oac.uci.edu!network.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscdc!hplextra!hpfcso!mjs Thu Mar 19 18:21:50 PST 1992 Article: 31437 of rec.music.synth From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1992 18:15:18 GMT Subject: Re: Re: Keyboard/computer stands Message-ID: <9170162@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA Path: orion.oac.uci.edu!network.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscdc!hplextra!hpfcso!mjs Newsgroups: rec.music.synth References: In rec.music.synth, storrs@milton.u.washington.edu (Storrs Albertson) writes: > > I am looking for a stand to support a KX-88 keyboard and > >some computer equipment. At the moment I am using a two tier, A-frame > >stand (Ultimate Support), but since the KX-88 is so heavy the stand > >shakes alot when I play. > > Gee, I asked this same question last year and the concensus > was "go with Ultimate"... I'd be curious what other > "solutions" to this problem you get. I have an A-80 > controller (also weighted).. it wiggles, but not excessively. Actually, I recall the concensus being the Quick-Lok Double Braced stand, which I promptly bought from Sam Ash. I got the two tier model, and I have a pf-85 on the bottom - heavier than the KX-88 (or A-80, I would assume) - and have been known to indulge in a little Cecil-Taylor-esque banging, and that sucker doesn't move at all. I highly recommend it. However, the lowest setting for the bottom tier may be *slightly* high for a relatively tall keyboard like the KX-88. I've never noticed this myself, but a more keenly sensitive friend claims it is about half an inch too high. Luckily, the Quick-Lok bench's lowest setting is also maybe a 1/4" higher than standard fixed bench (Glen Gould fans, this is not the bench for you). Of course, then your feet are too far from pedals if you want to be really picky, but a piece of plywood on the floor would fix that. Personally, though, in a blindfold test I don't think I could tell the difference. -------------- Marc Sabatella - "So many drummers, so little time..." marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com From orion.oac.uci.edu!unogate!mvb.saic.com!network.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!att!cbnewsm!nsw Thu Mar 19 18:23:58 PST 1992 Article: 31489 of rec.music.synth Newsgroups: rec.music.synth Path: orion.oac.uci.edu!unogate!mvb.saic.com!network.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!att!cbnewsm!nsw From: nsw@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Neil Weinstock) Subject: Re: Re: Keyboard/computer stands Organization: The Flying Squid Patrol Distribution: na Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1992 22:41:52 GMT Message-ID: <1992Mar19.224152.14410@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> References: <9170162@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> <203671@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Lines: 27 In article <203671@unix.cis.pitt.edu> metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay) writes: >In article <9170162@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella) writes: >> >>Actually, I recall the concensus being the Quick-Lok Double Braced stand > >This isn't the one they show Daryl Hall playing in the magazine ads, is it? Naw, that's some big tall funky weird thing. I got literature from Quick-Lok regarding that one, and decided it couldn't be as sturdy as the normal ones (never seen one in person, so I don't know for sure.) I ended up with the standard double-braced stand, and it's one sturdy mo-fo. Not as flexible as the Ultimate A-frame stands, though. >You wanna know why I regret not owning >a sampler? Because of missed opportunities like the noise it made when I put >my T8 on it. It gave a sort of a wheezing gasp, and quietly toppled forward >to dump the T8 keys first on the floor. I caught the T8; that's why my spine >is the way it is. |-P So you need *two* samplers, one to make the noise and one to sample it... - Neil --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-- Neil Weinstock @ AT&T Bell Labs // What was sliced bread att!edsel!nsw or nsw@edsel.att.com \X/ the greatest thing since? From orion.oac.uci.edu!network.ucsd.edu!swrinde!mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!rutgers!cmcl2!notes Thu Mar 19 18:24:58 PST 1992 Article: 31494 of rec.music.synth Xref: orion.oac.uci.edu rec.music.makers:22585 rec.music.synth:31494 Path: orion.oac.uci.edu!network.ucsd.edu!swrinde!mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!rutgers!cmcl2!notes From: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter) Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth Subject: For Sale: Ultimate Support 3 tier stand Message-ID: <1992Mar19.235016.23480@cmcl2.nyu.edu> Date: 19 Mar 92 23:50:16 GMT Sender: notes@cmcl2.nyu.edu (Notes Person) Reply-To: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter) Organization: New York University Lines: 20 Nntp-Posting-Host: polar.acf.nyu.edu For sale: Ultimate Support 3 tier stand Can hold 3 full size keyboards on "A" shaped stand Includes extra brackets so you could have, say, 2 drum machines side by side Includes Nylon carrying bag Quite strong, metal finish, quick set-up/break-down I have 1 of these available. I think $95 + shipping is a fair price. Please respond by e-mail. Will be away from e-mail 3/27/92-4/7/92. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Philip Galanter New York University phone: 212-998-3041 Research Associate 251 Mercer fax: 212-995-4121 Academic Computing New York, NY 10012 internet: galanter@nyu.edu O f f i c e o f A r t s & M e d i a T e c h n o l o g i e s